Envy vs. Jealousy: How Women Founders Know Who's Really in Their Corner | Shop Talk by KNOW

Are you outgrowing friends as a female entrepreneur? You're not alone, and you're not doing anything wrong.

On this episode of Shop Talk by KNOW, Sarah Benken Foushee sits down with PR founder Michelle Mekky, Shelby Arians, and Pascha Apter to talk about the "social glue" that holds high-achieving women together. Between them they bring a 10-year PR firm, a successful business exit, an investment in a new private professionals club, and friend groups that have held strong for 16 and 20 years. They get real about losing friends when you start a business, telling a jealous friend from an envious one, and deciding who actually gets your call when things fall apart.

In this video, you'll learn:

• The one sign it's time to move on from a friendship or network ("when I have to fight for my ideas to be heard")
• The difference between jealousy and envy, and why only one kind of person is truly rooting for you
• Why the right room is all about relationships and momentum, and what to do if you can't find that room (build it or invest in it)
• How to build a "power posse," even in your 50s